Dr. Frances Pestello Embraces Her Role as SLU's First First Lady
Dr. Frances Pestello describes herself as 鈥渁 sociologist of law and deviance,鈥 and she has the curriculum vitae to prove it. Her research has examined the effect of punishment on behavior, the impact of psychiatric medications on the sense of self, and the relationship between attitudes and behavior with her spouse, Fred. She鈥檚 taught abroad in Italy and England. She鈥檚 been a professor for more than three decades.
Her husband, University President Dr. Fred P. Pestello, has referred to her as 鈥渢he original Dr. Pestello,鈥 hinting affectionately at the fact that she earned an advanced degree before he did. He might also call her original for another reason, though: Fran is the very first first lady of Saint Louis University.
The Origins of a Life in Higher Ed
Fran grew up in suburban Philadelphia, in a town called Berwyn, 鈥渢he next stop over from the very last stop on the Main Line,鈥 she said.
One of six children in the Geyer family and the oldest daughter, Fran took care of her siblings. And although she always knew she wanted eventually to be a mother, she also knew she was destined to get a degree.
鈥淢y father had a Ph.D. in chemistry, and my mother entered Vassar College at 16 and got a bachelor鈥檚 degree in chemistry.
鈥淭hey were huge advocates of education, particularly at small, liberal arts colleges,鈥 she said. 鈥淎ll of my siblings ended up at similar kinds of schools, and all went on to get professional or advanced degrees.鈥
Fran chose the College of Wooster in Ohio and fell in love with higher learning.
鈥淚 hadn鈥檛 been a great high school student, in part due to a spinal fusion for scoliosis at 16, which took me out of most of my junior year,鈥 she said. 鈥淚 got to college and thought, if this is what education can be, I love it. Everything I took my first year, I thought, I could major in this.鈥
She graduated in 1973 with a degree in sociology. But instead of continuing to graduate studies, she got a place in Kent, Ohio, with two college friends and spent a year working full time at a fast-food restaurant while figuring out her next step.
鈥淚t was a great sociological experiment,鈥 she joked. 鈥淚 quickly decided: This is not what I want to do with the rest of my life.鈥
Leap of Faith
A year later, while taking a graduate course about social stratification at the University of Akron, she met Fred Pestello, who was just beginning graduate school.
鈥淗e remembers being in the class together, but I don鈥檛 remember that detail,鈥 she admitted. 鈥淚 do remember being in the same graduate student cohort, and after a few years as friends we began dating.鈥
They married in 1981.
鈥淔red thought it wasn鈥檛 a good idea at that point because neither of us had a job, but we took a leap of faith,鈥 she said. 鈥淢arriage is always a leap of faith, right? And you know what? It all worked out.鈥
It all worked out. If Fran Pestello has a mantra, that might be it.
East Coast Girl, Cleveland Boy
The couple was about to embark on a series of leaps of faith, as they hopscotched around for academic positions.
In 1983, both Pestellos entered the job market. While he finished his graduate work, she interviewed at Central College in Pella, Iowa.
鈥淚 came back and said to him, 鈥業 think they liked me. I think they鈥檙e going to make me an offer. And I don鈥檛 think you鈥檙e going to like it there,鈥欌 she said with a smile.
鈥淚 was an East Coast girl, and Fred was a Cleveland boy. We were both out of our element in small-town Iowa,鈥 she said. 鈥淟et鈥檚 put it this way: If you wanted Italian food, you had to go all the way to Des Moines.鈥
But the couple had made a deal that whoever got the first job offer would take it. Central College wanted her 鈥 and within weeks, the University of Dayton made him an offer. They made the difficult decision to start their careers apart.
鈥淲e thought it would be for one semester,鈥 she said. 鈥淚t ended up being a year and a half.鈥
鈥淔or many who work in the academy, working in the same city, let alone the same institution, is rare,鈥 Fred said. 鈥淔ran and I worked in separate cities twice. It was tough. But during those times, we operated as a team 鈥 we always have.鈥
Eventually, Fran joined Fred at Dayton, which offered not just more opportunity but also a Catholic, Marianist affiliation in a bigger city 鈥 a place that suited both of them. Dayton created a shared position for them, the second one in the department.
鈥淚t was pretty innovative on Dayton鈥檚 part,鈥 she said. 鈥淭he deal was that we had half-time teaching, but we were not defined as part-time faculty; we were both treated as full-time faculty, each with one full vote on all matters.鈥
In due course, they earned their own faculty positions. He eventually took the administrative route, ultimately becoming Dayton鈥檚 provost and senior vice president for educational affairs. She ended up as the chair of the Department of Sociology, Anthropology and Social Work, a position Fred held a few years earlier. And in the meantime, they started their family, having a daughter, Vitina, and son, Freddie.
Eventually, Fred left Dayton to become president of Le Moyne College, a Jesuit institution in Syracuse, New York. This time, they lived separately for two years while he settled into his position and she finished up her term as department chair.
She arrived at Le Moyne as a full-time, tenured faculty member, but a third of her time was dedicated to the president鈥檚 office.
鈥淚t was a good transition,鈥 she said. It seemed to lay the groundwork for the next role she鈥檇 take.
All-In
In March 2014, Fred Pestello was appointed the 33rd president of Saint Louis University. Fran found herself facing yet another decision about career and place.
鈥淚 did think about staying at Le Moyne briefly, because my department didn鈥檛 want to lose me and I liked my students and colleagues, but quickly I decided to go unscripted and jump all-in and see what presented itself in St. Louis,鈥 she said. 鈥淎nd that鈥檚 worked out.鈥
What worked out this time is an arrangement that allows for all kinds of work she loves. She teaches part time in SLU鈥檚 Department of Sociology and Anthropology. She鈥檚 on the board of the Library Associates of Saint Louis University and of her neighborhood association in the nearby Central West End. She recently joined the board of the International Institute, another venerable institution in St. Louis. And of course, she supports the president鈥檚 office.
鈥淚鈥檓 happy to extend Fred鈥檚 reach, while adding my own touch and perspective,鈥 she said. 鈥淚 think the most value I can add is being at things he can鈥檛 be at, on the academic side especially. I鈥檝e been an academic and a faculty member since 1983. I know the academic world.鈥
And what does the husband of 鈥渢he original Dr. Pestello鈥 think?
鈥淚 learned a long time ago that little of significance is accomplished alone,鈥 he said. 鈥淢y time at Saint Louis University has absolutely been made possible by Fran鈥檚 support, guidance and presence. I appreciate the sacrifices she has made in her career and the investments she has made in SLU and St. Louis. I feel blessed to be here together, continuing to share our life now in St. Louis.鈥
鈥淲e鈥檝e had intertwined lives wherever we鈥檝e been,鈥 she said.
And you know what? It always works out.
First Lady Firsts
First Name: Harriet. Frances is actually her middle name.
First Course Taught at SLU: 鈥淚ntro to Sociology.鈥 She also teaches 鈥淒eviant Behavior.鈥
First Trip as SLU鈥檚 First Lady: Madrid, Spain. She recently visited again to celebrate the 50th anniversary of SLU-Madrid.
First Date with the President: 鈥淥ur first 鈥榦fficial鈥 date was an evening walk in one of the parks in Akron. He arrived at my door with a bouquet of pink sweetheart roses. To this day, he surprises me with fresh flowers.鈥
First Child: Vitina. She also has a son, Freddie.
First Place to Look for Her at SLU: Samuel Cupples House, her favorite campus building. She also loves Chaifetz Arena during men鈥檚 and women鈥檚 basketball games.
First Time She Felt Like a St. Louisan: When she used the landmark Amoco sign at Highway 40 and Skinker Boulevard to navigate.
鈥 By Amy Garland